Liz Smith: Beyonce, Gaga, Adele — Who Will Stand the Test of Time?

Beyonce vs. Lady Gaga

And more from our Gossip Girl: NYC hotties on “The Ledge”… Diana’s gowns auctioned — can she match Marilyn?

“IT IS hard to think of Beyonce as an advocate for anything but an ideal of spritzy confidence. She is …. celebrating the pleasure of doing things well and not making a particularly big deal of it. This is a fairly unisex sentiment, if you are listening closely. For those who need a firmer guiding hand, Gaga can push you along.”

That is Sasha Frere-Jones writing in the new issue of The New Yorker, an article comparing pop music’s two current queens, Beyonce and Lady Gaga. Most of what I’ve read about Gaga usually compares her to Madonna, and although the Big M is referenced here (how could she not be?) writer Frere-Jones concentrates on the contrasting styles and influence of Miss Knowles and Lady G.

For as much as I understand modern pop music — not a lot — this is a fascinating read.

Interesting P.S. I was visiting the Sirius radio studio the other day in Manhattan, recording a new show for the wowOwow website with Marlo Thomas and Gloria Steinem. In one of the green rooms (which was actually gray, of course) there was an oversize Rolling Stone cover on the wall, trumpeting a singer named Adele. Two of the very smart young women from wOw, also there, Hilary Black and Emily Gallagher, assured me that Beyonce and Gaga were nothing compared to Adele!

This amused me, because the New Yorker article does mention Adele: “Her career is likely to be long, because she is selling to the demographic that decides American elections: Middle-aged moms who don’t know how to pirate music and will drive to Starbucks when they need to buy it.”

Writer Frere-Jones perhaps underestimates Adele’s appeal.

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THE CINEMA Society and Grey Goose Vodka recently sponsored a screening of the new thriller “The Ledge” in New York City. The latter sponsor’s product was desperately needed after the film ended! “The Ledge” falls into the category of movies that Pauline Kael once described, while reviewing Joseph Losey’s “Secret Ceremony”—“sometimes the nuttier a movie is, the more people want to love it.”

“The Ledge” stars Charlie Hunnam, who has morphed from the beautiful boy in the British version of “Queer as Folk” into a major hunk, Patrick Wilson, also a major looker (who will soon have his own TV series, “A Gifted Man,” on CBS) and Liv Tyler, she of the impossibly imposing pucker. I can tell you almost nothing about the movie, without spoiling it. Be warned, however — have a Grey Goose at the ready as the credits roll! One stunned audience member said, “Maybe it needed a few musical numbers.” (A more coherent script might have helped.)  Hunnam and Wilson give compelling performances. Miss Tyler is, as she always is — a bit vague, rather misty. Appealing, but not ready for Eugene O’Neill. It is worth seeing for the actors alone.

The after-party happened at PH-D at the brand-new Dream Downtown Hotel. It’s a gorgeous, open space with a wraparound balcony and breathtaking views of the city. The waitresses were all towering beauties serving turkey sliders, tuna tartar in little ice-cream cones and mountains of shrimp. (One of these girls was a dead ringer for actress Mischa Barton.)  There were an alarming number of Paris Hilton lookalikes (don’t they know she is over?) And here’s a fashion note. The de rigueur look for hot men in the hot summer is a tight, white, deep v-necked tee-shirt. Go to the gym before trying this out.

Among the celeb throng:  David SchwimmerKathleen TurnerRachel HunterIngrid SischyStephen Baldwin (looking big and healthy) … Sebastian StanBilly ConnollyJake T. Austin and others too traumatized by “The Ledge” to mention.
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OVER IN England, royalists are still fretting that actress Natalie Dormer, who plays the beloved Queen Elizabeth (later the even more beloved Queen Mum) in Madonna’s coming “W.E.” movie will portray this revered figure in a “savage, unflattering manner.” Well, she doesn’t play it that way, although it’s no secret that the Queen Mother was nobody’s fool and a tough cookie. That’s how Dormer handles it.

Nor is Wallis Simpson (played in the movie by Andrea Riseborough) made to appear overly sympathetic — the Brits worry over that, too. But director Madonna does not cast the character as heroine or villain. In life, things are rarely so black and white, as M herself knows.

It all happened 75 years ago. I remember sitting on the floor at home in Texas, listening to the astonishing King Edward VIII say he would give up his throne for “the woman I love.” It did seem kind of dreamy. But England, on the verge of war, has never quite recovered or forgiven the “romantic” abdication of their monarch.
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JUST AS the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge (William and Kate to you and me) arrived in Canada to begin their grand progress — which will end in Hollywood — a great big auction happened. The collection of Princess Diana’s gowns, including the famous blue number she wore while dancing with John Travolta, are up for grabs. Diana sold the dresses back in 1997, for charity, wishing to free herself from her “princess image.” Many were bought by Maureen Dunkel, who has taken the dresses on tour over the years. She also set up a foundation in the late Princess of Wales’ name. Now Mrs. Dunkel has filed for bankruptcy. She must part with Diana’s old gowns — many of them fussy, over-elaborate numbers from the excessive 1980’s.

A portion of the money from the sale will go to The National Ballet School of Canada. Mrs. Dunkel feels Di would have approved, being a devotee of the dance. Nice, but some feel the auction has been too closely orchestrated to coincide with the visit of Diana’s son and his bride. Mrs. Dunkel is perhaps angling for a visitation with the man who will be king?

In any case, it will be interesting to see how Diana’s gowns rate. Will any one of them top the record-breaking $4.6 million for Marilyn Monroe’s “Seven Year Itch” dress? These two blonde goddesses have been so closely linked — they fought the system (monarchy for Di, Hollywood for MM) … they were vulnerable, sensitive and more than a bit neurotic … died at the same age in the same hot month of August, under circumstances millions still insist are “mysterious.”

And anything they touched, wore, or owned, is revered like a religious icon.

29 Responses so far.

  1. avatar Testarosa says:

    Much as I quite like Beyoncé and Lady Gaga, I absolutely adore Adele and agree with your colleagues that she will absolutely go the distance. In my opinion, her voice is as powerful as Dusty Springfield’s or even Lulu’s and there is nothing auto-tuned about her “instrument”. She writes and sings with a very raw emotion that is so very hard to find these days. She also has a very broad appeal: I have a teenager and he and his friends are all huge fans of Adele. She’s still quite young but definitely one to watch.

    Just a small point of correction, Liz: William and Kate don’t arrive in Canada until June 30th (interesting story about the dress auction, though).

  2. avatar Maggie W says:

    Adele is a very young and confident artist who has just walked into the party without all the glitter and glam and marketing ploys of Beyonce and Lady G.  And she has stolen the show.  ” Rolling With the Deep” has proven to have a long shelf life and unlike Beyonce and Lady G, the young soulful throwback does attract the Starbuck moms and the 16 year old gum poppers.   This is not to say Beyonce and Lady do not have fans in those same audiences, but Adele casts a wider net with that haunting voice.   Like Beyonce and Lady G, Adele will go the distance .  As a fan of all three ladies , I certainly hope so.   Each brings something unique to the music world.

  3. avatar Richard Bassett says:

    Dear Liz, thank God for some nonpolitical subjects. There are more, on Mr. WoW’s than usual. I could understand their overwhelming need to alter our president judicial system, if they were in a position to actually do it. Alas, between making lunch and dinner….it does provided some repressed comfort. Either that are reading the online news or watching television commentaries…blah…blah…blah. I am working in a position that resembles our judicial strategies (on a much smaller scale) but contain all of the key roles. At these meeting I MUST be cognizant of every issue, and I MUST back up our financial spendinging. I listen to those who are forced to sing those tunes than the endless political garble. Whenever spending large amounts of money are necessary, these issues come up naturally. I leave them at work. I certainly am not trying to edit these conversations, but I try to look beyond the representation of ‘’Bunny Ears’ avatars and nameless user rhetoric. THAT is the hard part. Serious issues using cartoon characters. You know who you are.
    I do like Beyonce’s music but if I saw her walking down the street…I wouldn’t look twice. They say that you need a gimmick if you want to stand out in the industry. She does not have one. From Clairol commercials (which took me months to realize was her) to Oscar worthy films, there is not one distinct figure that allows her to stand out. It is not a racial issue, nor is she lazy; I’ve just never had this experience regarding an entertainment figure of her magnitude before. Am I alone in this? I don’t see it this changing. I guess I will always have to be hypervigilanant when it comes to Beyonce. As for Madonna and is the world known and I’m not just talking in a Do Re Mi Fa Sol La Ti Do. She has her hands in many pots. Though with W.E., the director usually isn’t in the shining light…no matter how the film is received. Lady Gaga? Do we really have to ask at this point? And “Adele” sits glued on a stool, more or less, during the two video’s I’ve seen. She is heavy and I that she thinks that holds her back (it’s only been an issue in Hollywood sense day 1), so she’ll come into her own when she sheds the pounds and takes charge of the stage.
    When you first watch “The Ledge”, you are just dubious but then the film’s plot pulls you in and suspense overtakes you. Like all films, it has its weaker moments but you exit feeling haunted on some level. A happy or sad level? You’ll have to see how deeply you can dig before you reach your level. It is worth it.
    As director of W.E., we have to give most of the credit to the performers who can capture what the director and producer envision. In your everyday living, it is the performers who are given a positive or negative criticism but I know that if Madonna wants to be in the shining light again, she’ll find a way. But at 55, no matter how difficult I, she’ll never be 25 again. Maybe she’ll fame with Lourdes. Maybe branching out with her music, that has been thumbs up for twenty five years now…we’ll see a different life for her.

    • avatar Testarosa says:

      I enjoyed reading your interesting comments but must take issue with your assessment of Adele. She is already a bona fide superstar and has not needed to shed pounds to achieve that status. And the kids love her all the more for it: beyond appreciating her incredible talent, they see her as very real and romantically vulnerable, almost one of them. Adele is also quite blunt and self-deprecating in interviews (so my teenage son tells me: he is in love with her personality). I find her a much-needed breath of fresh air (as doe Maggie W, above) and, contrary to what you might think, her heaviness is NOT holding her back: she has even surpassed Madonna in terms of number of weeks atop the U.S. charts. And, as for her taking charge of the stage, I think you need to watch a few more Adele videos (preferably live renditions) to fully appreciate the sheer power of this young woman’s voice.

    • avatar Paul Smith says:

      Richard, I agree with you about Beyonce. She is sort of the Ann Margaret of the record industry, worthy but something key is missing.  Adele has released one disc, and could be a curiosity in the manner of Susan Boyle. Body image matters unfortunately (I mean look at Gaga who, but for her garb, would be a mediocre Italian girl playing the dives in the Village).

      • avatar Paul Smith says:

        An side: Ever wonder why England produces so many white women who who can sing great R&B? Even Amy Winehouse, drugged or no, can sing rings around most.

      • avatar Carmen McNeil says:

        Adele has actually released 2 albums not 1.

        I hope that Adele stays exactly the way she is because with the voice she has, and the following she’s got, she has no need to adapt to the Hollywood image. The girl is stunning.

    • avatar O E says:

      “Adele” sits glued on a stool, more or less, during the two video’s I’ve seen. She is heavy and I that she thinks that holds her back (it’s only been an issue in Hollywood sense day 1), so she’ll come into her own when she sheds the pounds and takes charge of the stage.

      This sort of comment  is what is wrong with the music business these days.  The public wants on the stage  flash and bling and girations; lighting bolts and explosions; wind storms to blow wigs’ corsets to force curves; purchased breasts spilling out of skimpy outfits. And screams. Oh, God! Screams even when singing the national anthem.  And, of course, the publicity machine to drive it all. The voice, the lyrics, the melody don’t need to exist –and in most cases don’t with any significant degree.

      To deminish Adele’s ART and TALENT because she sits down to sing and because she looks like a real woman, is unfair and shallow.  The singers who’ve lasted for many decades, who had the talent, respected the lyrics and the melody, as much as they respected themselves, stood on the stage without gimmicks, without flash and gave us what we had paid for: art and  talent in all their purity.  We didn’t have to sit and listen to their own compositions telling of their miserable lives and their pain.  Ego was not fed to such blatant extremes. The public was entertained and left the concert humming the melodies, their lives enhance by music that would play in their memories late in the night with a soothing refrain.  I’ll take that anything over today’s flash and burn culture.

    • avatar momis says:

      I noticed that she’s always sitting down in her music videos but that wasn’t an issue for me. I think that it actually goes with well with her soulfull music; I don’t expect her to be doing elaborate coreography nor having an expensive set. Her music simple does not need it.  

      I always noticed her make-up and dress style more than she being seated at all the time. Heavy or not, she has the better facial features of the the tree, IMO, and her make-up is simple gorgeous.

    • avatar Mr. Wow says:

      Dear Richard..

      Sorry that my political posts are so onerous.  I’ll soon “go gay” again. (As Cary Grant  memorably yelped in “Bringing Up Baby.”)

      But as for Adele, I think her body is fine as as it is. There’s a difference between zaftig and unhealthy.  She does not appear unhealthy to me.  Maybe Adele just wants to sing and not conform to the Hollywood standard? She seems comfortable in her skin.  Or so she says.  I hope it won’t  turn into another Jennifer Hudson farce.

      As far as I am concerned, Judy Garland always sounded better when she had a few pounds on her.  But the powers at MGM–and society in general–forced her into starvation and pills.  She had her thinner body, but also a thinner voice.  (Not to mention all those nervous, jittery mannerisms, accentuated by the diet pills, and adored by certain members of her audience.)

      That said, Adele needs better directors on her videos.  One can be big and also move!  And THAT said, Miss Garland was always most effective–heavy or slim–when she stood (or sat) still, and let that voice tell a story.

       Madonna is still only 52.  We can all wish her a happy 53rd in August.

  4. avatar momis says:

    I just turn 30 last month and I have no children; I’m far from being a middle-aged mom and yet my vote is for Adele. I’ve never really been a fan of Beyonce. There had been some of her songs that are infectious and I would get into them but after a few months I would totally hate them. Lady Gaga I just don’t get. I hear she has real raw talent but I fail to see it with all her over-the-top antics. However, I’m yet to get tired of her music the way I do with Beyonce’s music; some of her songs I never really cared for but the ones I liked, I still like and can listen to them without getting annoyed. Adele’s voice and style is just more pleasing to my ears. The lyrics of her songs are more profound and resonate better with me.

  5. avatar Rho says:

    None of them, IMO, they just don’t make them like they used to.  Guess I’m old.  LOL

  6. avatar Deeliteful says:

    I have never heard of Adele. I will, however, check her out. I don’t get Lady Gaga at all. Beyonce is a beautiful, talented young woma., I don’t get most of her music, either. I know I am old!  

    • avatar O E says:

      This is for all of you who say you’re old because you don’t “get” Lady Gaga and Beyonce: Congratulate yourselves! You have good taste, you appreciate true talent, you know what music is supposed to do to your soul, and you’ve gained all this wealth of discernment by living long enough to know how to tell good stuff from crap.  Wear your years with pride. The young ones will never know what they missed.  Let’s hope they outgrow this age of noise and are not stunted by the glitter.

  7. avatar Richard Bassett says:

    I think Adele has vocal talent and certainly knows how to belt of the songs that makes it easier for you to cut your wrists. I see her appealing to a 45+ age group (who makes all the allocotes in determining the best of the best performers They know current music because that haven’t grown up quite yet) and, to be fair, I haven’t seen Adele in a concert. The two videos (wake me up when they are over) that I have seen, makes me want to take a nap. But if she did lose the weight and played a little on stage…I’m sure that it would make a difference. In concerts, does she ever get off the stool?
    These WoW readers do not cause an envision of crowds dancinging and partying until 6am in the morning, every week-end but Madonna (in her day) certainly did flare everyone up. And now, Lady GaGa is doing the same thing. They are are both intelligent ladies who know who is as the pulse of their fame, Certainly not 50 year old ladies knitting their grandchildren a sweater. When I was 25, life consisted of taking the pull by the horns and running with it…no matter how tough the ride. Those 25, but living in LaLa land quickly feel out of place (or 45) sans a major financial position and eventually move to Wisconsin and Mississippi. And there is nothing wrong with that…when you are age appropriate. The most prevalent question a in mid-lifee asks is; “Did I do everything (or almost) that I wanted to do now that I am 50?” There is nothing more pathetic than a 55 year old trying to be 25. But that doesn’t have to happen if one lived as 25 at 25. Use music as a barotmeter People ususally do… So back to Adele, she touches the hearts of those who (in an earlier time) would swoon to Tommy Dorsey and his band. But Madonna and Gaga are well aware of the logistics regarding their popularity. They sing for those who buy (or download) their musuic and this will be a roller coaster ride for them for the next twenty five years. Their antics may not impress 45 year old grandma’s…bit they know it. They don’t want it.

    • avatar Judym says:

      If Adele has a huge following already (which she does) – why on earth does she have to “lose the weight and play a little on stage.”  Her fans appreciate her for what she is.  Which is quite refreshing in my book.

      But you really got me with the “50 year old ladies knitting their grandchildren a sweater”.  How many 50 year old grandmas do you know that have time to sit around and knit?  Are you serious??  Wow

      I used to enjoy reading your contributions to the conversation.  Why don’t you try a little less negativity (even dear Mr. WOW caught some flack from you today).  Life is far too short.

    • avatar Testarosa says:

      @Richard: You are way off base with your suppositions about the composition of Adele’s fan base. You seem to write her off as some niche artist, someone only “appealing to a 45+ age group”. You have got to be joking. This young woman is everywhere these days, tearing up the charts and breaking all kinds of records in the process (including surpassing chart records once held by Madonna), Quite frankly, I am hard-pressed to think of the last time a young artist came on the scene with such broad-ranging appeal: teenagers love her and their parents (for once) agree. And, I echo other (female) commenters in asking why you keep on harping on Adele’s weight? Mention it once and it’s just a not-nice observation. Bring it up in every post, however, and it just comes off as mean-spirited, petty and — in the specific case of Adele — unrealistic.

  8. avatar Richard Bassett says:

    As much as I really do not state that I never been to an Adele concert, my opinion of her is unbalanced in that aspect so maybe I came across off a bit disingenuous. I only know her two music videos and as I did say she had a vocal talent. I was bored watching the videos. I can see her appeal to the 50+ (nothing wrong with that) group but there may be some image building to be done first. Obviously, the Hollywood scene hasn’t gotten to her yet. On an episode of “Punk’d”, they tried to convince ‘Kelly Osborne’s’ down to Earth image and visually alter it. To BETTER is, not create another personality. She couldn’t have objected more. Never. (God, they even did that to Marilyn Monroe in 1949!). I saw Kelly Osborne on “Dancing with The Stars” a while back. With platinum hair and frivolous costumes. She was SO adamant that she wasn’t going to change one iota and there she saw. Beautiful, to say the least. Only time will tell with Adele. A few decades ago one of Wilson Phillips members resorted to gastric bypass. It was an honest effort; she looked healthier but, somehow, is gaining the weight back. Being visual (like most men) enhances the attention span.
    My gripe is with those who do not get the theatrics of Madonna and Gaga. In 1982, Madonna was performing all over NYC before she was famous. She looked like a train wreck. Her image has certainly changed now albeit she’s had thirty years to change it several times. One a more bizarre level, Gaga is going through the same thing. Madonna lived as though she had been famous forever, never explaining anything to anyone. Gaga is the opposite. Explaining everything to everybody but they both shine where the shine the brightest: On the dance floor. Certainly more that Madonna (who has had thirty years of it) has branched out and will continue to do so. At 52, she’s paid her dues. Gaga is trying to outdo herself with every performance. Those who do not ‘get’ them need to get your fannies on the dance floor at midnight and listen to “Hung Up’ or “Bad Romance”. You’ll get them then. You won’t hear Adele, who had been pigeon hole as pure “To 40” (unless I am missing something). One other thing, I remember MTV/VH1 unplugged…where electronics were banned from performers. Some were good, some…not so much. I’ll end with Adele capable (after 5 years of USA performing) of doing so much more while she is still within her window of time to do it. Remember, last week you dug Baby Snooks into the ground with her alleged negativity. The slant of each post should be given freedom to do this. After all, it is only an opinion.
    (JudyM, Mr Wow caught some flack from me or to me? This doesn’t enter into the equation at all)

  9. avatar clearance blouse says:

    check out Gretchen Cryer in the Cryer & Ford sequel to I’M GETTING MY ACT TOGETHER AND TAKING IT ON THE ROAD…STILL GETTING MY ACT TOGETHER. 5 more performances, The York Theatre, at St. Peter’s Church, 54th & Lexington….two shows back-to-back with a break between. Talking about WOW.

  10. avatar momis says:

    I was too young when Madonna started her now long lasting tenure as one of the great performers but even today I don’t get her appeal like I don’t get Lady Gaga. Lady G’s songs, just as Beyonce’s, are infectious for a night a the club but, as talented as they may be, I wouldn’t spend a penny buying their music. In retrospect, I have a consistent track record of not caring too much for the music of artists like them or like Brittney Spears.

    A friend just paid $300 for tickets to a Britney Spears concert; I told her she was insane. I may show my dancing moves at the club to their music but that’s as far as it goes.

    As far as Adele and I will say it again, I’m 30 and her music is immensely more appealing to me than most of the current female artists. Most of my friends (in their 30s as well) share my opinion except for two odd balls who are Britney Spear fans.

    • avatar Paul Smith says:

      If you haven’t gotten those two, you won’t.  Good for dancing is right. Adele is a better singer, richer in tones and interpretations. But there is her image problem. If Madonna had Adele’s voice she would now be called Jesus Christ.

      • avatar Testarosa says:

        @Paul Smith: Your points are very well-taken but I’m still asking myself why the men on this thread — except for Mr. Wow, God bless him — insist on bringing up Adele’s weight and “image problems”, time and time again, while most of the women just focus on her very rare talent. Maybe her case is an exceptional one but Adele ALREADY is a superstar (extra poundage be damned). I think, instead, that her timing is excellent: music lovers of all ages are growing so very tired of the glitz, the glam and, perhaps most importantly, the auto-tuned (that whole “package”, as it were). As my teenage son has told me when we’ve talked about Adele’s allure, “she’s the real deal, Mum”. I think my son speaks for a lot of us.

        • avatar Paul Smith says:

          She is not a superstar, as you said.  This word has lost all significance. She is building a career and, I’m afraid, in the world of agents and handlers and deal making her image will be addressed, e.g., Jennifer Hudson. I’m not sure if her fan base is young teenage boys or more likely teenage girls, in which case they won’t stay devoted for long.

  11. avatar Mr. Wow says:

    Dear Momis…

    You need to spend some time with Madonna’s ballads.  (Which is what Gaga fans say to me!)

    Try the “Bedtime Stories” album.

    $300 for Britney?!   (which is what non-Madonna fans say to me!)

    • avatar Richard Bassett says:

      Mr WoW

      “Ray of Light” in which did she win her only Grammy, wasn’t bad for Madonna’s fans. It was 1999 and Madonna accepted some collaboration on the project, but there is no doubt that she was the lead. On a personal level, she was about to embark on a major life’s journey. But accepted for “Frozen” and “Ray of Light”, both pure Madonna; the remaining songs were primarily dance tunes. But after fifteen years of being ignored by the Grammies, and the Evita Oscar snub a few years before…she was as surprised as a 15 years old girl, instead of the cool, calm “Thank you” to the audience. Which one could have expected. She did go a bit over the top in accepting the award speech. She was so happy…that she soon had a baby, and got married in a castle. “Bedtime Stories” makes me a bit sleepy and it is uncharted territory for an entire Madonna CD. She had some good material around the turn of the century, in my opinion…not quite a rebellious Madonna but the vocal instructions’ she took for the “Evita” score certainly paid off. GaGa has years to venture into the ballad realm. The Beyonce that we see today will be the same Beyonce that we will see fifty years. Generic. The artistry is just not there. It’s dumb. Gladys Knight? Didn’t she sing about a midnight train to Georgia back in 1971, and played with Jr Walker & The All Star’s, ten years before that? Not high on my revolutionary list…at 70.

      • avatar Hannah Smith says:

        Ray of Light mostly a dance album? Mer Girl, Little Star, Drowned World, To Have and Not to Hold, and yes, even Frozen (pre-remix) negate that claim. I found Ray of Light a more equal-opportunity album than most of her others, which, I agree, are primarily dance. As for ballads, Something to Remember should be the obvious choice there.

        • avatar Richard Bassett says:

          Yes, I know that you are right when buying the CD right out of the stores. Do people even do that anymore? I don’t know what your 1994 dance history (that sounds funny) is but many ballad songs (I’m not sure of any of the ones that you mentioned) are remixed into an electronic version. Yes, the original song is there but synthetic, bass, euro, trance, electro, progressive , alternative, and even 1980’s synthetic styles are added to the mix.  And in these days, there aren’t any ‘slow songs’ played (well, maybe at a wedding) played at a club…unless you are over 50. As a DJ (not me), you want to build a crowd up by increasing the beat, and then slowly bring them down. Like aerobics, in the looset sense of the word. DJ’s have their own reputation by perfecting this skill. I think it’s time for Hannah to go dancing (with pre-1978 music). Start with 1978’s “Victim” by Candi Staton. She’ll help you up on ladder…or better still, “Heart of Glass” (recorded 1979 without Debbie Harry’s enthusiasm)