Liz Smith: Chaz Bono Loses the “Dance” But Wins the Fight

And more from our Gossip Girl: Lindsay strips down for Playboy (no, no!) … Beyonce — the wise mother-to-be … Judy Garland, celebrated in concert and on CD

“WHEN YOU get the personality, you don’t need nudity,” said the eternally covered up and corseted Mae West.

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LINDSAY LOHAN’s mother, the lovely Dina, is saying to something called X17Online that her daughter has posed for Playboy.

The magazine will not confirm. Aside from every other consideration, we’ve already seen just about all of Lindsay there is to be seen. Perhaps nobody remembers LL’s ill-advised semi-nude session with Bert Stern a few years back, when she attempted to recreate Stern’s fabled “last sitting,” with Marilyn Monroe, with Lohan in a bad blonde wig. This appeared in New York magazine of all places. The pictures were not attractive. Lohan’s body looked surprisingly mature for a girl who was then 22.

Well, maybe Lindsay will break with tradition and do a fashion shoot for Playboy? Or perhaps it’s just an interview?

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WELL, Chaz Bono did his best on “Dancing With the Stars” and lasted longer than many thought he would. Despite a lot of vicious commenting when he joined the show, Chaz stayed strong and ignored the haters. However, at the end, he couldn’t ignore the critiques of one of the judges who felt compelled over the weeks, to compare Chaz’s efforts to those of a ‘cuddly penguin” or an Ewok. (One of those odd “Star Wars” creatures.)

Chaz didn’t appreciate this, and neither did his furious mother, the one and only Cher, who tweeted her disapproval when Chaz was finally eliminated.

In any case, this has to have been a great ride for Chaz, winner or not, leading to more open discussions and understanding about transgendered people. And I hope Chaz continues dancing or otherwise exercising — it does a body good. And, this high-profile act of bravery has probably done his relationship with Cher a lot of good, too.

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CONGRATS to one of my favorite guys, Bruce Willis. He and his wife Emma Heming are expecting their first child later this year. This will be Bruce’s fourth child. He has three daughters with ex, Demi MooreRumer, Scout and Tallulah. Bruce seems very happy with his girls, but surely our big tough action hero wouldn’t mind a boy.

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WELL, JUST because I don’t care for the rotting, slow-motion zombies of AMC’s “The Walking Dead” doesn’t mean anybody has to agree with me. In fact, after only two episodes of the second season, AMC has picked the show up for a third season. There’s life in the zombie genre yet!

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I FEEL for the parents of Amy Winehouse, who were so convinced that their talented, tragic daughter died perhaps from attempting to detox herself too quickly.

As it turns out, though no illegal drugs were found in her system, the coroner now says, Amy had consumed a very large quantity of alcohol — five times over the legal drunk driving limit. She died as a result.

This is a cautionary tale every college kid and spring-breaker should take to heart: Getting really, really drunk can give you more than a killer hangover. It can actually kill you.

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SINGER/DANCER/Fashion icon Beyonce looks ravishingly autumnal on the front of November’s Harper’s Bazaar. Her skin is gleaming bronze, her hair is gleaming bronze, her dress is gleaming bronze. It’s quite an eye-catching cover, photographed by Terry Richardson.

Richardson also does the fabulous photos inside, which accompany Elisa Lipsky-Karasz’s profile of the star. Beyonce explains why she revealed her pregnancy on the red-carpet at the MTV Video Music Awards, rather than simply release a statement.

“It was the toughest red-carpet I ever did. I didn’t want a crazy picture or gossip story to break the news. So I decided to say nothing, and proudly show my bump. I felt it was more powerful to see the love and enthusiasm as opposed to saying anything.” (If you recall, Beyonce just stood there with a little Mona Lisa smile and rubbed her tummy. The Internet went mad!)

One of Beyonce’s best friends, actress Gwyneth Paltrow, contributes this: “B. is wise beyond her years. She has taught me the value of speaking your mind. She is clear and honest and true to herself while being so respectful. She will be an incredible mother because she is full of love and knows who she is.”

And as to motherhood, the wise Beyonce sums up her decision to have a baby now. “It was important to me that I gave myself time to focus on becoming a woman before I became a mother.”

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JUDY! JUDY! JUDY! Tomorrow night at Manhattan’s Town Hall, the Seventh Annual Broadway Cabaret Festival presents “A Tribute to Judy Garland and the Art of American Dance.” Although Judy wasn’t known as a dancer per se, she was damn good, and was famous for watching a complicated dance routine once and then just going out and doing it — one take! Carole J. Bufford and Elizabeth Stanley will perform many famous Garland song and dance routines. Her daughter, Lorna Luft, will be interviewed onstage. Call 212-840-2824 for ticket information.

And still more: Coming soon — a lush two-CD set “Judy Garland: The London Studio Recordings. 1957-1964.” This includes not just Judy singing at her absolute peak, but some marvelous outtakes which feature Miss G. breaking up, chatting with her conductors, and generally displaying the humor that was so at odds with her “tragic” persona. (Most of the songs here were recorded in 1960, just prior to her great comeback, which culminated at Carnegie Hall. The voice is flawless.) Judy historian John Fricke provides a wonderful summary of these British recordings.

This is a must for all fans of “The World’s Greatest Entertainer.”

49 Responses so far.

  1. avatar Katharine Gray says:

    I really cannot force myself to watch Dancing With The Stars after becoming addicted to So You Think You Can Dance because the dancing is so bad on DWS.  But, I am glad Chaz lasted as long as he did.  I have to think his weight issues are related to his former disconnection from his former female body.  Hope for his health’s sake he can take some pounds off but whether he does or not, he seems happy and I’m happy for him. 

    He has always been pretty brave about his life experiences and this was no exception.  I would much prefer to watch him dance than Kate Gosselin! 

    • avatar D C says:

      SYTYCD is my favorite — and really the only “reality” show I watch.  The competitors are true athletes and artists, and it is a joy to watch.  I don’t watch DWTS — and I don’t think it’s a concidence that the MC of the show was formerly with America’s Funniest Videos. 

      I did notice during the news coverage about Chaz being dropped from the competition that he looks like he’s lost a little weight — Good for Him!  Dancing is really good exercise as long as you can keep from hurting yourself. 

    • avatar TheTexasMom says:

      I  have to admit I watch both shows and also take ballroom and latin dancing lessons.   SYTYCD is what I aspire to be but never will and DWTS is closer to what I will ever be.   One makes me smile while the other makes me laugh!

  2. avatar B.eadle says:

    Good for Chaz! The judges are there to critique the dancing. The personal comments were over the line and uncalled for.

    Oh Lindsey. Stop the madness! Reports are that she is going “full frontal.” Does this woman have no trusted advisers!? This is the way she plans on getting her movie career back on track? I feel so sad for her. She did show talent at one time.

  3. avatar chipgiii says:

    Chaz, Chaz, Chaz… calling is as old as mankind.  Do not react, do not appear to whine.  Ignore the comments!  People who attempt to belittle others do not need you or anyone else to make an arse out of them – they are doing a fine job all by themselves.  There dumb remarks speak volumes about their insecurities….

  4. avatar Baby Snooks says:

    Dancing with the Stars. And all the other “gladiator shows.” If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Others have been equally insulted. And will continue to be. We are a nation of haters. And you don’t need to do much but turn on the boob tube to realize it. 

    Lindsay Lohan seems intent on destroying herself. Maybe everyone should just let her. She’s no different than the rest of them. This new “brat pack” as some call it. Not all of us live in a sewer and not all of us are interested in those who do.  Must be awful to be a gossip columnist these days. You must have to grab the Febreeze every time you pick up a media release. 

  5. avatar JCF4612 says:

    Lindsay Lohan must be chewing her nails with jealousy over Michelle Williams landing the MM role in My Week with Marilyn. With opportunities like this passing her by, maybe that reality will help her clean up.

    • avatar Baby Snooks says:

      The only thing that will help her is to throw her in a jail cell and keep her there for six months or so. Instead of the usual six minutes.

      • avatar Mr. Wow says:

        Dear Baby…

        Actually, she needs a year in the country.  No TV (well maybe the History Channel), no cell phones, no Twitter.  Jail would only harden her ingrained sense of victimization. 

        But to get her to the county, one would have to force her–and so, she’d feel victimized.  Basically, she’s cooked. 

        • avatar Baby Snooks says:

          A year in the country. With whom?  A couple of LA County sheriffs to make sure she didn’t manage to call for “delivery?” Please. Throw her in a cell and keep her there. Worked wonders for Robert Downey, Jr. Who so far seems to be the only one who survived hiimself.

  6. avatar Belinda Joy says:

    I was in the camp that believed Chastity Bono did not belong on Dancing With the Stars, so it was welcome news to hear she was voted off. That was a huge case of bad casting.

    On a lighter note, Beyonce looks simply stunning. She is such a beautiful and talented woman.  

    • avatar Baby Snooks says:

      It’s Chaz Bono. Not Chastity Bono. But your attempt to add some fuel to the fire in the kitchen is duly noted.

      Beyonce may be beautiful. May be talented. But lacks class. As she proved when she slammed Etta James. Don’t mess with Etta. Ever. End of subject. Another indication of how the Obamas also lack class. So we are clear, that moment really should have been Etta’s. Not just for the song. But for the doors she opened for so many. I hope Beyonce doesn’t end up in a glass house. Because a lot of people will be throwing huge bricks rather than little stones.

      • avatar Belinda Joy says:

        I apologize, you’re correct. Her name is Chaz.

        As for Beyonce’ lacking class and the Obama’s lacking class, you have a right to your opinion and if that is what you believe, who am I to argue with that.  God bless you.  

        • avatar Baby Snooks says:

          It really has nothing to do with opinion but rather respect for a woman who despite some really bad problems with drugs along the way nonetheless always managed to ger herself out of the gutter and pack ’em in. Particularly at Monterrey. I’d like to see Beyonce, or Madonna for that matter, hit the stage at Monterrey with just a microphone and a backup group without all the “sound studio enhancements” and see how long everyone stuck around. Probably not very long.  You can take an alley cat these days and put them in a sound studio and turn them into the greatest singer that ever lived. Until you take them out of the sound studio. Which is why so many are more “performance artists” than actual “musical artists.” Helps hide the “lip-synching.”

        • avatar Irreverent says:

          Her name is Chaz.”
          Her”, purposefully written in bold font…Really, Belinda?
          Chaz has identified himself as a transgendered male. His mother (the woman who carried him for nine months in her womb, gave birth to him, and raised him) has accepted him as a son, and fully supports him as a son. Belinda, you do not control or have any kind of influence over Chaz Bono. Why, then, do you insist on disrespecting him by calling him Her, when he identifies himself as a man? Do you have any stake in how Chaz Bono sees himself? I would guess that the answer is “no”.
          So unless I am very much mistaken, and you do exert control and influence over Chaz Bono, and you do have a stake in how he sees himself, I kindly request, in the name of Humanity, that you let the man be. If you choose to judge his participation on Dancing with the Stars, then let it be on the merits of his dancing ability (or lack thereof). After all, the show is supposed to be all about dancing (since it is a dancing competition), not about your views on transgendered individuals.

          • avatar LandofLove says:


          • avatar Baby Snooks says:

            The “accepted” criteria for gender seems to be the genitalia and so until she becomes he she is still she.  Chaz “jumped the gun” and can see herself/himself any way she/he wants. What others see is another matter.  Transgender is really with regard to the transition for those who “accept it” which most don’t – the person becomes a man or woman at the point they have the surgery and “become” their genitalia.  Most men shouldn’t have a problem with that since their brain is usually located in their genitalia. Although their heads are usually on the other side. Stuck up something.  so to speak. Same with many women to be honest. A friend used to refer to her “magic patch.” “The key to a man’s heart is through a woman’s crotch” as she liked to always say. Usually as she announced the next husband. She always married well and divorced better. I have another friend who just celebrated her 50th anniversary. Her secret? Frederick’s of Hollywood.  Sex is all. The problem is most in this country aren’t really getting much of the all. So they have nothing to do but stick their noses in other people’s bedrooms. Out of envy. Chaz of course seems to be getting some. Which drives quite a few up the wall. Particularly those who only believe in heterosexual missionary position with the curtains drawn and the lights off sex.  In any case, well, untl Chaz can tell us “how it’s hanging” there’s a little problem with the he and she. so Cher needs to find the right surgeon and give Chaz a Christmas present.  Maybe he can hang an ornament on it so everyone can see that he is indeed a man. Until then…

          • avatar Irreverent says:

            One of the definitions for the term “gender” that the Merriam-Webster Encyclopedia provides is:
            “The behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex.”
            Physically speaking, Chaz Bono’s transition from female to male might still be incomplete, but psychologically speaking, he sees himself, and carries himself, and refers to himself, and behaves, like a man. What right do the rest of us have to tell him how he “oughtta” see himself, based solely on what is physically present or lacking between his legs?
            BabySnooks, I find the following funny and I agree with you:
            “The problem is most in this country aren’t really getting much of the all. So they have nothing to do but stick their noses in other people’s bedrooms. Out of envy. Chaz of course seems to be getting some. Which drives quite a few up the wall. Particularly those who only believe in heterosexual missionary position with the curtains drawn and the lights off sex.”
            As for this:
            “untl Chaz can tell us “how it’s hanging” there’s a little problem with the he and she.”
            There really shouldn’t be an “Until then…”
            The man has stated his case. Unless he’s some deranged lunatic out to destroy the entire world and kill every living organism on this planet, I don’t see why there should be a problem with “the he and she”.

          • avatar LandofLove says:

            Absolutely, Irreverent. Chaz’s genitalia is his business and none of ours. If he presents himself as a man and wishes to be addressed as such, that’s his decision, which we should respect.

          • avatar Briana Baran says:

            Landoflove: I believe that a person’s sexual habits, orientation, quirks, kinks, organs and preferences are all personal and private…and adults, and consenting adults, have a complete right to absolute privacy in these matters without government, media or dogmatic religious intrusion. This would include genitalia, of course.

            The difficulty ensues when an individual such as Chaz Bono decides to make these matters entirely public. He has been extremely outspoken regarding all decisions regarding his sexual reassignment, including his recent choice not to opt for genital reconstruction. His reasoning for this decision was clearly stated…and for those who are informed…is dubious. This IS important, because it sends a mixed message to people who are gauging their own options by the actions that this celebrity is taking (willing or not, when a person such as Chaz Bono makes the conscious decision to make such a drastic, life-altering and socially challenging change in full, media enhanced view of the public eye, he is automatically granted notoriety, stardom and status as role-model). Chaz has, in a sense, become public property through his own very obvious, open actions. “Dancing With The Stars” is a sort of family TV event. Millions of Americans follow the show (I do not. I find it pathetic, and always have. Kate Gosselin? Bristol Palin? Urgh…no thank you), and he couldn’t have chosen a better venue to get complete national exposure to the mainstream American. Most of my 14 year old son’s friends and families watch it. And Cher is a media icon. The combination is like a Times Square Neon and running lights display. You never here Chaz without simultaneously hearing Cher. He is eliminated from DWTS, and mummy is immediately publicly denouncing the show because her baby didn’t win and was abused by the judges. From what I have heard, he was nothing special, and the judges are a group of dysfunctional has-beens who no longer can, so they spend their time in their current positions being disrespectful low-rent Simons to the contestants.

            But there is no such thing as bad attention, is there? So, back to Chaz and his genitals. Which are still “her” genitals. Which sends a terrible mixed message to those who think that sexual reassignment is an easy answer to hating themselves. Wow, this says, I can be Sue and Stan. At the same time. Like Thomas Beatty, the Pregnant Man. I empathize with those with gender confusion…but Thomas Beatty is a miserable, disgusting attention whore. A beard, no breasts…but a uterus and a vagina, artificially inseminated to get pregnant…and then “his” WIFE breast-feeds the baby so that “she” can be a “he” again…until that second pregnancy. That, my dear, is a travesty.

            Sexual reassignment is not a frivolous thing. Being partly female, and partly male indicates a difficulty in the decision making process, ambivalence and a reluctance to commit. Which are all primary indicators that the individual is NOT truly suffering from a gender identity crisis. I will refer to Chaz as “he” or “him” out of respect…but he needs help desperately…and I say that with all due compassion and understanding. This is not a judgment and has nothing to do with morals, or ethics. It does have to do with setting a terrible example for those looking to him for guidance, by his own actions…and with his own mental health and peace of mind.

          • avatar Baby Snooks says:

            I should have clarified the “accepted”  criteria by sayiing the “accepted” legal criteria. As in changing the birth certificate and drivers’ licenses to refflect the change in gender. The legal change in gender. 

            I do get everyone’s point.  My point simply is until she has the genitalia changed, she is still a she. Legally anyway.  

          • avatar TheTexasMom says:

            Irreverent – your post was very reverent.  Thank you for saying what I was thinking.

          • avatar Belinda Joy says:

            I referred to Chastity as HER because SHE is a HER, SHE is not a HIM IMO.  In your opinion you see her as a him. Good for you.

            She was born female and is still female. The only thing that has changed is the genitalia. And in my world, what makes a man a man and a woman a woman is far more than what is between their legs. Funny how if a man were to tell a woman she is nothing more than her vagina, women would be up in arms and angry. “How dare he say that to me! What makes me a woman is far more than my vagina!”

            Yet for some reason, Chastity Bono can have her vagina altered, breasts removed and call herself a man and everyone agrees. “Well of course she’s a man, she no longer has breasts and a vagina! She is calling herself a man so that’s good enough for me.”  No, actually it doesn’t work that way. If a woman loses are breasts due to cancer is she then a man? No.

            Ms. Bono is not a hermaphrodite, she was born female. She will die female. She feels like a man emotionally and had surgery so the outside matched how she feels inside. Masculine. Right now she merely looks masculine yet still sounds female. Did she have her appearance changed to better fit into society? Her comments from her show on OWN point to that.  Hmmm…curious the Gay & Lesbian community aren’t coming down on her for that.

            It is neither here nor there Irreverent because I doubt if SHE is losing any sleep over mine or your opinion on who SHE is as a person. And THAT is what is really important. As long as I can respect her and those like her for human beings, that is all that matters. No more. No less.  I for one don’t have to go along with the lie she is telling herself to respect her existence.  

            So, does she look like a man? Yes, to be sure. However, is she a man? No. Because a man is more than his genitals. And SHE (even thought she feels like a man) doesn’t have what a real man has.

          • avatar Irreverent says:

            Dear Belinda,
            Your argument that “a man is more than his genitals” is precisely the reason why Chaz Bono’s view of himself as a man should be respected.
            Chaz Bono isn’t calling himself a man because he had his breasts removed and his vagina altered. He’s calling himself a man because that’s the identity he feels is right for him (it’s how he feels emotionally). The fact he has to change his physical appearance to “better fit society” really says more about the kind of society we live in, than about him as a person. Why should the Gay and Lesbian community “come down on him” for changing his appearance? A gay man is still a man, physically and emotionally speaking. A lesbian woman is still a woman, physically and emotionally speaking. Neither gays nor lesbians feel a need to alter their physical appearance to “better fit society”. Transgendered people feel a need to change their physical appearance, because despite protestations that “a man [or a woman] is more than his [or her] genitals”, there are still plenty of people objecting to their statements that “I am a woman because I feel like a woman” or “I am a man because I feel like a man” when said statement is not physically congruent with their current genitals.
            As for Chaz Bono “telling himself a lie”, what lie, exactly is that? Who are you to judge that he is, indeed, telling himself a lie? Are you a close, personal friend of his? Can you read his mind and his emotions?
            And forgive me, but I honestly don’t see how you are respecting transgendered people when you make statements such as, “telling himself a lie”; insisting on calling him HER when he has said he is a HE, not a SHE; and (worse, in my opinion), declaring that he “doesn’t have what a REAL man has.” (My emphasis)
            Incidentally, when you are not a man yourself, how do you know what it is that a REAL man has, especially when you agree that “a man is more than his genitals”?

          • avatar Belinda Joy says:

            Wow! You and I are really not understanding one another, because your response to my last post is baffling.

            What lie? The lie (once again in my opinion) is that she is telling herself that she is now a man because she had her genitalia changed. That is a life. She is an emotionally disturbed woman that believes emotionally she is a man. That is a mental illness. It is why she sought therapy before having her surgery. Believe it or not Irreverent, it is not a “sane” or “normal” thought process to think you were born in the wrong body. That points to emotional issues. So no, I would not go along with that lie, but I would respect her or those that think as she does, her rights.

            Chastity Bono is a lesbian. And as you said, millions of gay and lesbian individuals go through life never going through surgery to change their appearance. They accept, as I do, that being gay or a lesbian is not a choice but how they are born. It is no different than being born straight, its in the DNA. Just as being born a woman or man is in the DNA.

            Where you and I differ is in this. I am the most feminine woman you have ever met. You will never connect with anyone that is more in touch with her femininty than me. Yet lets say I decided I wanted to be a man. So I go and have my breast removed and clitoris altered into a penis. I now define myself as a man because I had my body altered to look like one. In your mind because I have done this and because I say I am one, I am a man.

            In my world and opinion, that was nothing more than cosmetic, I am still a woman. All of my DNA, hormonal makeup and brain activity makes me female. I may “feel” like a man, want to be a man, but I am still at the core a woman. Would I love the support of people going along with my desire to be viewed and treated as a man? Sure. And I am sure Chastity Bono does as well. But in the final analysis she is not a he.

            What you are missing in this thread of discussion is we can disagree on this and just because we don’t agree doesn’t make me wrong and you right. You may wish I believed differently for whatever reasons you are telling yourself, but I don’t have to agree with you on this. As long as I don’t discriminate in my day to day life with people that we are discussing, that is all that matters. 


          • avatar Irreverent says:

            “She is an emotionally disturbed woman that believes emotionally she is a man. That is a mental illness. It is why she sought therapy before having her surgery. Believe it or not Irreverent, it is not a “sane” or “normal” thought process to think you were born in the wrong body. That points to emotional issues.” — Belinda Joy
            Wow…just…wow. I must confess that I teared up a little when I read this. How to describe this type of thinking? Intolerance? Bigotry? For sure it is lack of empathy for our fellow human beings. I am not transgendered; in fact, I am absolutely comfortable in my sexual identity (the one I was born with) and have always been, but your statements above sure felt like a slap in the face. If I were transgendered and read those words, I can’t even begin to imagine how hurt (and insulted) I’d feel.
            I have two children. Everyday I teach them to be accepting of all human beings, that no one is better than anyone else, that as long as individuals are not abusing others, they are perfectly free to live as they wish, and I do encourage them to speak up when they see or hear intolerant behavior or comments such as yours. I constantly teach them to put themselves in someone else’s shoes, to learn empathy. And I do my best to model the behavior I’m trying to teach.
            But my children are still young, so while they have heard the occasional kid say “that’s so gay”, or make fun of someone else because of the color of their skin, or their weight, or their accent (and my children do tell these kids that what they’re saying is wrong, racist, and hurtful, and “how would YOU like it if someone said something nasty about you???”), they have not heard anyone proclaim that “[a person] is an emotionally disturbed [individual for believing] emotionally [he/she] is [who they are].” “It’s a mental illness.” “It points to emotional issues.” I’m sorry, but statements such as these are just so sad.
            Of course different individuals can disagree on numerous, or all, topics. Call me idealist, and even naïve (I’ve been called both numerous times); I only wish more people were capable of empathy (this is the “whatever reason I’m telling myself” for wishing you believed differently). True empathy. Not just sympathy. And not just a blanket statement that, “as long as I don’t discriminate…, that is all that matters.” (And by the way, I do dispute your statement. From the moment you judged and opposed Chaz Bono’s participation on Dancing with the Stars merely because he’s transgendered, and not based on his dancing skills, that Belinda, is discrimination, even if you don’t openly, actively, or blatantly practice it in your day-to-day life.)
            I wish you peace.

    • avatar Briana Baran says:

      O, yes, Beyonce. Unabashed thief of other people’s songs. Diva who brings her own fan on outings to achieve that wind-blown look. Endorser of L’Oreal who allowed her complexion to be significantly lightened in advertising she did for them…in the 2000’s. And who has an amusing and arrogant habit of showing contempt and disrespect for artists who can actually perform…without a dozen costume changes, an entire troupe of back-up dancers to distract from the diva should she…inevitably…make a mistake…sound management, special effects and a an entourage of handlers, keepers and fluffers. Artists such as Etta James.

      You go, Belinda Joy.

  7. avatar D C says:

    I remember seeing a photo of Lindsey in a bikini, looking totally blasted drunk at someone’s home party.  After seeing that I cannot imagine why anyone would want to see the full monty.  I know that Playboy photogs are “artists” and can make her look great… and hey, if it gets her some money to help get her life back on track, more power to her.  But if she uses it to continue to live her life like an alcohol soaked frosted flake, well then, get on with the show.  I’ll lay down a bet over how long it’ll be before we see the not-so-artistic photographs of her being wheeled out in a body bag after the Amy Winehouse version of the LL party. 

    • avatar Mr. Wow says:

      Dear DC…

      God bless her, but in the semi-nudes she did a la Marilyn, her bosom was drooping drastically. Okay for a woman in her 30’s who has maybe had a baby ot two.  Not so hot on a young girl. 

      I feel very sorry that she gone this route. 

      • avatar Baby Snooks says:

        So after she gets out of prison she can have a boob job. Or maybe have one in prison. They can do it and call it part of her “rehab” to prepare her for a return to earning a livelihood. Just, please, keep her away from Arnie Klein. Oy vey. Today. The Jackson famly has one nuts. Do they really think no one knows he was an addict? He admitted it himself at one point. And obviously didn’t “deal with it” despite his wanting everyone to think he did. I of course wonder what Dr. Feelgood was giving to Elizabeth Taylor all those years.  Who the hell did he do his residency with? Judy Garland’s physician? “I can give you a pill to sleep, a pill to wake up, a pill to stay awake, a pill to feel awake, a pill for this, and a pill for that. Whatever you want…”  Sorry but if you’re famous and are on his Twitter page you better get used to getting the fish-eye as they used to call it.  What a cesspool.

      • avatar Briana Baran says:

        Ouch, Mr. Wow. I have seen the photo shoot you speak of, and I agree, it did look as if the Cooper’s Droop was having an effect. However, I must say that my second linoleum lizard made his appearance when I was a relatively old-mom of 38…and the girls looked better at the subsequent age of 40 than Ms. Lohan’s did in her twenties.

        More about flopping about sans foundation garments than birthin’ babies.

  8. avatar Paul Smith says:

    Mr./Ms. Bono has had his/her fifteen minutes.  Being a “tranny” is not a job–who supports this trainwreck anyway? Now there is a subject worth exploring, why a forty-something has no visible means of support.

  9. avatar Rho says:

    I don’t watch reality shows.  I saw Chaz and partner today on The View.  Actually, I really feel so sorry for Cher.

    • avatar Mr. Wow says:

      Dear Rho…

      Why feel sorry for Cher?  Because she is having issues with one of her children?  That’s life, that’s what being a parent is all about.  She seems–publicly, anyway–to have gotten on board.  Just as did when Chaz was still Chasity, the lesbian.  (And she was honest enough to admit that both transitions were difficult to accept.)

      I feel sorry for the gay and transgender kids who are abused, beaten, thrown out of their homes and left to fend for themselves on the street.  The ones who don’t have famous movie star mothers and who don’t get to be on “Dancing With the Stars.” 

      • avatar Rho says:

        Mr Wow, she should have stayed a lesbian, she is not completely a man yet.

        • avatar Mr. Wow says:

          Dear Rho…

          People should do what they want to do–as long as it does not hurt–in the physical sense–others.

          Chaz has made a difficult decision.  He has suffered as has  his  is mother, bother and other loved ones.

          He has committed  no crime.   I have a very good friend who is a male to female transexual.  I have known her since we were teenagers.  She was always amazing real, always  “passed.”  But I think, and she does now, that she had her surgery too soon.  That she would have had it in the end, but a total  embrace of a new sex was difficult at such  a  young age.  I’m glad Chaz has waited so long to define himself, taken  a thoughtful journey.

      • avatar Briana Baran says:

        I would not have blinked an eye if either of my sons were gay. I know it might have been a tougher road for them…but I would have been here just the same as I am now. As it stands, my older son is an entitled, narcissistic, lazy young man whose only calls revolve around what-have-you-done-for-me-lately?. He is a carbon copy of his father, who is a carbon copy of his mother…all of whom have lived together for the last four years.

        I’d rather he’d have been anything, and compassionate, accountable, responsible and kind. That’s the way he was raised in this home. Not to be fascinated by Nazis, to be racist, to be a homophobe. My younger son, who had exactly the same parenting, sans the influence of my ex and his family, is one of the kindest, most generous people I know. He’s in eighth grade, and he has a gaggle of sixth grade, skinny, vaguely nerdy boys (and I say that with affection, as my husband is a nerd, and I’m awfully proud of him) whom he mentors with humor, compassion and hugs. The girls have clued in to his kindness, humor and intelligence, and he’s beginning to get a lot of attention…which he likes, but has no idea what to do with as of yet.

        If he’d been gay, so what? His dad feels the same way. He’d still be our Monkey. He wouldn’t be growing up on the streets, homeless and in pain. I know what it’s like to have a parent loathe you for who and what you are. He’s a damn fine person. He’d have been the same, gay or transgendered. No child comes with a guarantee…so love what you get with everything you have, be the very best parent you can, and accept them as far as you’re able. Yes, sometimes a line can be crossed when it comes to acceptance…but for me that would be deliberately committing an atrocity against another human being…not being gay.

  10. avatar Irreverent says:

    Dear Rho,
    Why? Why “should” Chaz have stayed a lesbian? What difference does it make whether physically speaking he’s completely a man or not? We don’t know what reasons he has for not completing his physical transition, yet. For all we know, he might undergo surgery tonight, or tomorrow, or early next year. But really, what does it matter when it happens? He has already said he is a man. How he sees himself and wants to be addressed is really all that should matter.
    He is an adult in full use of his mental capacities. He knows what he’s doing. He alone knows how he feels. He’s living his life according to what feels right to him, and he’s not breaking any laws or hurting any defenseless beings. Why can’t we just respect his decision and let the man be?

    • avatar Rho says:

      I heard Chaz say she isn’t going to become completely a man because it’s too expense.  Okay, I will respect Chaz’s decision.  Notice, I can’t say him, sorry.

      • avatar Baby Snooks says:

        So Cher should give her a, well, give her one for Christmas. I really am so glad I never moved out there. They’re all a little, well, Hollyweird.  So, next question. Once he has a, well, has one, will the lover accept it, pardon the pun, in which case is she now straight? Good lord some of us are still trying to figure out the “Mr and Mr” and “Mrs and Mrs or Miss and Mrs or Mrs or Miss,” it’s more complicated with women, and now this. Whatever happened to just being “bohemian” when you didn’t want to be Ozzie and Harriet?

        • avatar Briana Baran says:

          Baby, considering Cher, and her tendency toward extravagance, would it be wise if she were the one to gift Chaz with…”One”? I am thinking of that Sam Kinison routine: “No, don’t make take the plaid one when I go out with the guys…Ah! Ah! It never ends!”.

          Now, let’s consider the sort of thing Cher might just decide on…




          And bigger was always better when it came to head dresses, sooo…

  11. avatar Aline says:

    I heard Chaz say in one of his interviews that he has not done the “lower” surgery yet because the procedure is not medically advanced enough. I wish him well when/if he pursues the surgery in the future.
    The only thing that bothers me about Chaz is his voice. It’s annoying just like his dad Sonny Bono’s voice was. Oh, and I don’t like Chaz’s haircut – it’s not flattering being shaved so close on the sides and back.

  12. avatar Briana Baran says:

    I am complete certain that I will be bomber into oblivion for this post. That said, here goes. Chaz Bono concerns me. Not because I have a problem with the transgendered. Or gay or lesbian people. Or transvestites. Anyone who has been a member of this site for any length of time, and has read my previous posts…lengthy and irritating to some though they may be…knows that I fully support equal rights for all orientations and lifestyles.

    But there is a trend in this country that is profoundly disturbing. It is a trend toward early identification of children as transgendered. Early as in less than eighteen months…because a boy wants to wear pink. Or a girl likes to play with trucks. The decisions are much more heavily weighted toward male to female change, and appear to be heavily influenced by female parents who already have at least one female child. Hormonal treatments are being started pre-puberty. These children are NOT being given a chance to mature sexually (in other words, actually go through puberty and achieve sexual maturity). They rarely are asked who they are attracted to sexually…just what they want to be…a bit like wanting to be a fire fighter, doctor, dancer, or musician…but instead it’s. “I want to be a girl…or a boy”. Parents rarely expect children to hold fast to the career choices they make at ten and twelve years old…but they argue for complete maturity and rationality in decisions regarding gender, which is a much more profound choice.

    Which is seriously argued against by the psychiatric and medical community. Not because they’re unwilling…but because of the high risk factors involved. Very few people who seek sexual reassignment have successful lives afterward. This is NOT because of society’s failure as a whole to accept and nurture them. Often it is because they are people who are miserable as themselves, and are looking for a way out. They have an unrealistic expectation that living life as the opposite sex will make them more attractive, change their lives, allow them more opportunities and freedom…make them a different person. It will not. There are also far too many cases in which individuals seek transgendering in order to match a role-model, or to please one…a specific person for whom they could never quite be good enough. And then there are those for whom transgendering creates an aura of the limelight…who need attention.

    And most of these fail spectacularly. The rate of drug abuse, alcoholism, severe depression, and suicide amongst the transgendered is spectacularly high…even those who have full support of family and friends. Worse, this all applies to the families of the transgendered as well…but not quite for the reasons you might think. Imagine a father (not picking on the men…just an example) with two teenage daughters. He has always been a good dad…then, abruptly, he disappears…leaving them and their mother clueless and abandoned. When he returns, he announces that he’s their second mom, he has breasts, long hair, and is wearing a dress…and insists that he’s given everyone enough of his life and it’s time for him now. They need to just accept. Really? This behavior is very typical, to a greater or lesser extent, of many who are seeking to change themselves…not just their gender…and it creates a doomed situation.

    There is more to gender reassignment than hormones, surgery and wanting to be the opposite sex. Many people who attempt it have an idee fixe of what their desired gender should be like that is shockingly stereotypical. And then, there are the children. Recommendations for children and sexual reassignment are clear…it should not be considered seriously until after the child reaches sexual maturity (post-pubescence) so that the child can begin to assess his/her actual sexual orientation.

    We have issues in this brave new world…children being born to proposed “men” who have retained their female reproductive organs in order to give birth…or cause a sensation. Twice. I have no issue with Chaz Bono wanting to live as man. I will call “him” him. I respect decisions such as that. But Chaz is waffling. Female to male reassignment surgery is about as sophisticated as it’s going to get during Chaz’s lifetime. It has always been a problematic operation because of all of the difficulties in making a facsimile of functional genitalia. Male to female has been much more successful, and authentic, since the 1970’s. And, technically speaking…unless a person is one of the rare few actually born with the reproductive organs of both sexes, and chromosomal abnormalities, he or she will always be male or female, XY or XX. No way to change that.

    In case anyone wants to question how or why I care…I spent the first 16 years of my life wanting to be male. Really, truly, absolutely wanting to be male. No trauma, no role-models, no idea that being so would be better or easier. My earliest memory, very vague, from being perhaps four, is wanting a penis (I had seen nude artwork). I played exclusively with trucks, little soldiers, cowboys…and wanted boy’s clothes. I would check every morning to see if I’d changed. As I got older I liked to build fences, ride horses, make things out of wood, was interested in war machines and guns, and speculative fiction and horror. I didn’t want to date boys…and I didn’t want to date girls as a girl. I researched as much as was possible on the subject. There was a little to learn.

    When I was sixteen, I was brutally sexually assaulted for 3 weeks by a much, much older man. I became completely sexually null for two years, went through a period of promiscuity, then was married twice, lasting about 15 years total, but unable to feel a thing. I am now married (to a man) happily and successfully, for 17 years, and have two biological sons. I am a true bisexual…if my husband was a woman with the exact same qualities he has…I would have married her. Gender has no meaning to me at all. I have kept up-to-date with transgendering my entire life…I am fifty-two now…and the current situation is frightening. This is not something frivolous or to be taken lightly.

    I respect Chaz Bono’s right to do, and be, as he wishes…but it’s time to take a step back now. He’s revealed himself…we aren’t advertising for a new fashion trend. Those who are transgendered should have all of the same rights as anyone else. They should not be reviled. Those who do so seem to have forgotten all about those fragile glass houses. But an 18 month old boy who likes pink is not necessarily on that path…nor is a little girl who wants to play with her brother’s truck. This is not fashion…it is real life.

    • avatar LandofLove says:

      Interesting points, Briana, and a lot to think about. I agree with you about the fallacy of early identification of children as transgendered. However, when it comes to transgendered adults, don’t they have to go through intensive psychological counseling before operations take place? Not that counseling would necessarily resolve all issues, but I’m just curious….

      • avatar Briana Baran says:

        Yes, theoretically adults do have to go through extremely intense and thorough psychological testing and evaluation before, during and after sexual reassignment. Again, theoretically, this should be enough to prevent a great many of the issues I mentioned.

        But you are neglecting the difficulty presented by civil rights laws, civil suits, alleged human rights violations, freedom of expression and the stance that suggests…no, declares…that any adult human being (or, of late, pre-adult human being) has the right to do anything he or she choose with his or her life as long as it brings no physical harm to another individual. It is very hard to make a psychological evaluation based on even the most rigorous and established testing be the sole reason for preventing an individual from seeking reassignment…unless that individual has proven tendencies toward violence, sadism or homicidal urges. Even the threat of suicidal impulses may not be enough. This is one of the reasons why Johns Hopkins discontinued its sexual reassignment surgical program. The rest of the reasons have to do with the problems that I listed in the other post. And of course, desperate people are sometimes the most facile of liars…and it became well-known after a time (Hopkins began its program in 1965…perhaps giving some people a better idea of the scope and chronology of this issue) just what was required to be allowed entrance to the program. Between certain knowledge of the correct answers, and social pressure to allow a freedom of choice, a lot of very bad decisions were made, and a lot of lives irrevocably damaged, or even destroyed.

  13. avatar Briana Baran says:

    I noticed that no one commented on Bruce Willis and his lovely Emma Heming, and their impending new arrival. Congratulations and mazel tov, Bruce and Emma. O, how the feces and fur flew when he and she were wed, and how the women did rage over his submissive posture toward his dominating, much younger wife in their photo shoot in W Magazine. I thought it was hysterical, especially considering the laurels and lauds rained down upon Demi Moore when she married the dubious Ashton Kutcher. The age gap between Kutcher and Moore is fifteen years, but no one really commented on that…or one Moore’s $100,000 worth of cosmetic surgery prior to tying the knot.

    Now, personally, since my own DH is ten years my junior (no cosmetic surgery here, and the “Gap” wasn’t the reason for our union), The age difference of fifteen years is of no consequence to me. The “You Go Girl” atta-girl attitude (is Kutcher, apparently a chronic philanderer, not to mention an incurably immature drama-queen, really such a fine catch?) was a bit amusing. But then, nine years after the divorce, Bruce Willis marries a woman 21 years his junior (a bit of a longer stretch, and it’s rather clear from his films that he’s had the good common sense not to go under the knife…or get hair plugs) and is reviled, and accused of marrying arm-candy, and asked what happens when they actually have to talk in the morning. Wellll…it seems that after two years of marriage, they’re going to have a little Bruce or Emma next year…which might indicate a certain degree of commitment, and thought and decision making. Haven’t seen either of them in a hot-tub with anyone else, or on Twitter or Facebook nekkid, or dancing in an inebriated state on stage at a concert. O, it could happen…Hollyweird being what it is…but perhaps not. I don’t think that Bruce Willis has anything to prove. He’s still making hyperbolic, ridiculous, but amusing films that are relatively successful.

    Demi is getting a divorce from Charlie Sheen’s lackluster, man-boy replacement on his former, soon-to-be-defunct show. After he cheated on her repeatedly, and on the night before their anniversary, with a woman ten years HIS junior.

    I don’t know who plays these changes, but they sure enough are entertaining. I don’t consider Bruce Willis an actor, but he is a funny entertainer, and I have truly enjoyed a number of his movies…including “Unbreakable” and “Sixth Sense”. I’ve never seen him as a particularly noisome, loud-mouthed denizen of the Industry. I have never considered Demi Moore an actress…just somewhat annoying. I’m not a Brat Pack fan particularly. And “Ghost” was a loathsome heart-jerker. Please, kill me rather than ever making watch it again. Forcing your children and their little guests to watch the films of their ejection into the world at every birthday party made me want to vomit…and not just in my mouth. O, look, there’s my head coming out of mommy’s vagina. Friend: “Does it still look like that? Can I see?

    Holly weird. Ugh.